Wednesday, July 23, 2003

<< So much for just ignoring the fact that you have called me a liar HOW many times about Bin Laden saying the bit about "our work targets world infidels in the first place". How....typical of you. >>

NO, Cookie. No. You quoted: "but first of all our war is against the world infidels" THAT was the "quote you wrote, not "our work targets world infidels in the first place" so don't even try to pull your usual crap. Do you know what a quote is?


<< WERE WRONG except for two. >>
you have yet to provide that "proof", I have read bin LAden reapeatedly listing things the U.S. did as reasons he targets the U.S.
bin Laden and THE FBI (so the FBI is wrong and you are right?) have made it clear.

"We swore that America wouldn't live in security until we live it truly in Palestine. This showed the reality of America, which puts Israel's interest above its own people's interest. America won't get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula, and until it stops its support of Israel." -bin Laden, Oct. 2001 Bin Laden doesn't say "until the U.S. is gone, or until the U.S. converts to Islam." what he says explicitaly is: until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula and until it stops its support of Israel.

You have got to be kidding me if this isn't clear to you.

bin Laden was asked specifically about how this can end:
Question: As you call it, this is a war between the crusaders and Muslims. How do you see the way out of this crisis?

BIN LADEN: We are in a decisive battle with the Jews and those who support them from the crusaders and the Zionists. We won't hesitate to kill the Israelis who occupied our land and kill our children and women day and night. And every person who will side with them should blame themselves only. Now how we will get out of the tunnel, that is the [unintelligible] of the other side. We were attacked, and our duty is to remove this attack. As far as the Jews are concerned, the prophet has announced that we will fight them under this name, on this land. America forced itself and its people in this [unintelligible] more than 53 years ago. It recognized Israel and supported its creation financially. In 1973, under Nixon, it supported Israel with men, weapons and ammunition from Washington all the way to Tel Aviv. This support helped change the course of history. It is the Muslim's duty to fight. ...

[America] made hilarious claims. They said that Osama's messages have codes in them to the terrorists. It's as if we were living in the time of mail by carrier pigeon, when there are no phones, no travelers, no Internet, no regular mail, no express mail, and no electronic mail. I mean, these are very humorous things. They discount people's intellects.

We swore that America wouldn't live in security until we live it truly in Palestine. This showed the reality of America, which puts Israel's interest above its own people's interest. America won't get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula, and until it stops its support of Israel. This equation can be understood by any American child, but Bush, because he's an Israeli agent, cannot understand this equation unless the swords threatened him above him head. http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/02/05/binladen.transcript/
you cookie apaprently "don't understand" this too.

He is attacking becasue of the action of U.S. foreign policy. When you screw people over you can't expect to dictate how they will respond. Ever here of two wrongs?

Here is what the shoe bomber (Richard Reid) has said:"The reason for me sending you (a document he calls his "will") is so you can see that I didn't do this act out of ignorance nor did I just do it because I want to die, but rather because I see it as a duty upon me to help remove the oppressive American forces from the Muslim land and that this is the only way for us to do so as we do not have other means to fight them."

"We swore that America wouldn't live in security until we live it truly in Palestine. This showed the reality of America, which puts Israel's interest above its own people's interest. America won't get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula, and until it stops its support of Israel." -bin Laden, Oct. 2001

does this say until the "US coverts to Wahabism or Islam"? NO. your theory means you must ignore the above quote from bin Laden.

and I have expalined to you why Bush doesn't tell the public the truth. the public might question the foreign policies. they might question if it is wroth putting our lives at risk for them.

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