Thursday, October 24, 2013


Are we expected to believe that secret agents targeted 4 floors within World Trade Center FIVE too?

World Trade Center 5

The World Trade Center Building 5 (WTC 5) was a 9 story office building located on the northeast corner of the World Trade Center Plaza. The collapse of WTC 1 caused damage to WTC 5 and started fires in it (McAllister 2002). The uncontrolled fires resulted in complete burnout of most floors and partial collapse of four floors. The building was steel frame construction with field-bolted connections between floor beams and column tree assemblies. Failure of large sections of floor, in areas not damaged by falling debris from WTC 1, resulted from bolt tear-out at these connections as a result of the uncontrolled fires (Figure 8–14). Photographs of two recovered samples of floor beams (Figure 8–15) show how the field bolts tore out from the beam web weakened by the fires (McAllister 2002).
338 NIST NCSTAR 1-9, WTC Investigation
See link for pictures of what fires did to four floors within WTC 5.

Also see Dan Rather and Andrea Mitchell and others misdirecting from why the attack happened and fixating on how: (Dan Rather suppressed mention of Israel and also became oddly fixated on a building that was just near the towers):

Wednesday, October 23, 2013

Bob, Building 7 was just a building near the targets.


The target in NY was the Twin Towers. Building 7 was just a building near the targets. The reason you guys have rationalized it as a target is just because it collapsed due to the fires too. You see, the false claim about the towers was "fires can't cause a steel structure to collapse" so when faced with another example showing fires CAN cause steel structures to collapse, you guys irrationally argued that building 7 was a target too.

You need to understand why the towers were targeted:

"Sheikh Mohammed said that the purpose of the attack on the Twin Towers was to "wake the American people up." Sheikh Mohammed said that if the target would have been strictly military or government, the American people would not focus on the atrocities that America is committing by supporting Israel against the Palestinian people and America's self-serving foreign policy that corrupts Arab governments and leads to further exploitation of the Arab/Muslim peoples."

"9/11 Truth" is a misdirection away from why we were attacked, it manipulated people into not focusing on the atrocities that America is committing by supporting Israel against the Palestinian people and America's self-serving foreign policy that corrupts Arab governments.

See my blog posts:

The 9/11 misdirection away from "WHY" and to "HOW"

Focus on the atrocities that America is committing

I have made many videos try to get the facts out. You are listening to people who refuse to even respond to me when I point out the facts.

About 6.9 s BEFORE the initial downward motion of the north face roofline at the eastern section of the building the START of the descent of east penthouse occurred. "initial downward movement of the N face from the NE corner to the east side of the screenwall was observed at 6.9 s AFTER the initial downward motion of the E penthouse."

"The outer frame of wtc7 was attached to the inner structures which began falling first (as demonstrated by the initial motion of the penthouse). By the time the outer walls began falling, they were being accelerated not only by their own weight, but also by momentum transfer (via torque and tension through linkages) from internal structures that were already falling. All the forces involved, essentially weight + transferred dynamic forces - resistance, netted out to approximately mg for a brief period of time."

Building 7 did NOT fall at free fall, a small part of the time, a point on the exterior is measured at that rate YET the interior was already collapsing and pulling on the exterior. If I have 2 weights tied by a rope together on a table & I push one off the side of the table, it is not strange to think that the second weight might fall at a speed faster than free fall for a few seconds as the initial jerking motion of the first weight tied to the rope pulls on the second. Truthers have been omitting the penthouse collapse which occurs 1st but it is part of the collapse! The structure is connected so internal movement can pull the exterior

It is bizarre to think WTC7 would be a target and also bizarre to think it was a "controlled demolition" since firemen were warning that it would collapse for many hours prior to the collapse:

WTC7 Collapse Was Firemen's Concern On 9/11

See Your "9/11 Expert" in Action. THIS is your "9/11 Truth"?

Tom Murphy
Representative Press

Tuesday, October 22, 2013

Huffington Post runs BS Iraq War excuse

"The only reason we went into Iraq, I tell people now, is we were looking for somebody’s ass to kick. Afghanistan was too easy." And of course that is total bullshit. Bush had already bombed Iraq within his first 30 days of taking office in 2001. These guys had a war agenda before he even became president and 9/11 was and is only a BS excuse.

 Not only that, we learned last year that it was worse that simply ignoring the intel warning of an attack, there were sons of bitches who argued that the intel was a trick! Look at this: "the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat."

 So there was intel warnings of an attack and we had these war hungry freaks arguing that those warnings should be ignored because they were supposedly a trick to get our attention off of Iraq!? We need to hold people accountable, these power hungry freaks got many Americans killed. Bush is still waging around a free man.

 It's no surprise that Huffington Post runs the story because it serves the BS war agenda and helps obscure the war industry agenda. "Former Bush Official: We Went Into Iraq Because 'We Were Looking For Somebody's Ass To Kick': Report The Huffington Post | By Paige Lavender Posted: 10/20/2013 1:57 pm EDT | Updated: 10/21/2013 11:27 am EDT"

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Sunday, October 20, 2013

It's Time to Shift Gears and Try Harder + See Chomsky Book I'm Reading (...

On Western Terrorism

On Western Terrorism: From Hiroshima to Drone Warfare [Paperback]

"In On Western Terrorism Noam Chomsky, world renowned dissident intellectual, discusses Western power and propaganda with filmmaker and investigative journalist Andre Vltchek. The discussion weaves together a historical narrative with the two men's personal experiences which led them to a life of activism."

Wednesday, October 16, 2013

What, exactly are you afraid of?

UC Berkeley’s Jewish Student Union "for its part, based its rejection on J Street U's invitations to have Breaking the Silence, a group of former soldiers opposed to the occupation, speak to students,

At this point, I have only one question for the members of the JSU: What, exactly are you afraid of?

That students at Berkeley will be exposed to actual, flesh and blood Israelis talking honestly about their experiences serving their country?

UC Berkeley’s Jewish Student Union (JSU) "leaders told the Daily Californian last week that the picture presented by Breaking the Silence is unfair, and that "Jewish students with connections to Israel would be alienated."" - At Berkeley, love of Israel means no fear - except fear of J Street, What message is Berkeley's Jewish Student Union sending if it hails Israel's democracy while refusing to accept other points of view?

"UC Berkeley’s Jewish Student Union (JSU) voted Wednesday to deny membership to J Street U. Apparently, the main reason is J Street U’s relationship with Breaking the Silence, an organization of which I am a member." - J Street U Rejected for Standing Behind IDF Soldiers

Monday, October 14, 2013

focus on the atrocities that America is committing

But let's say it is the US support of Israel that's the main cause. In that case it makes perfect sense to attack the well known Jewish/Israel symbol in the US, the World Trade Center. Well, that doesn't make sense either.- Posted by tyr_13

I specifically address your claim that the World Trade Center made no sense as a target if they were concerned with US support of Israel below:

The main motive was mentioned in a newswire that morning but almost no one dared read the word "Israel":

Expert: Bin Laden Warned of 'Unprecedented' Attack
(Reuters) Sep 11, 11:19 AM ET

Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden warned three weeks ago that he and his followers would carry out an unprecedented attack on U.S. interests for its support of Israel, an Arab journalist with access to him said Tuesday.

Dan Rather both suppressed mention of the word "Israel" as he was reading from the Rueters newswire ( http://representativepress.blogspot....warned-of.html see that link) that day: AND he was oddly fascinated with the collapse of WTC7. I suspect that part of the guilt or uncomfortable position of being a person suppressing the motive led him to find other things that day to shift focus to.

And you are wrong to argue that the Twin Towers made no sense as a target if they are angry about US support of Israel:

"Sheikh Mohammed said that the purpose of the attack on the Twin Towers was to "wake the American people up." Sheikh Mohammed said that if the target would have been strictly military or government, the American people would not focus on the atrocities that America is committing by supporting Israel against the Palestinian people and America's self-serving foreign policy that corrupts Arab governments and leads to further exploitation of the Arab/Muslim peoples." (source: The Osama Bin Laden I Know: An Oral History of Al Qaeda's Leader By Peter L. Bergen p 418 )

I remember the same game of suppression played after the 1993 attack on the WTC, almost no one wanted to report what the motive was even though it was made clear by Ramzi Yousef: "Yousef sent a letter to the New York Times after the 1993 bombing attack on the WTC, "We declare our responsibility for the explosion on the mentioned building. This action was done in response for the American political, economical, and military support to Israel the state of terrorism and to the rest of the dictator countries in the region.""

"Yousef said he took no thrill from killing American citizens and felt guilty about the civilian deaths he had caused. But his conscience was overridden by his desire to stop the killing of Arabs by Israeli troops." "Yousef said he "would like it to be different," but only terrible violence could force this kind of abrupt political change. He said that he truly believed his actions had been rational and logical in pursuit of a change in U.S. policy toward Israel. He mentioned no other motivation during the flight and no other issue in American foreign policy that conserned him." (source: Steve Coll, Ghost Wars p273 )

Ramzi Yousef sent that letter to the NYT making specific demands, Specifically, the letter declared:

We are, the fifth battalion in the LIBERATION ARMY, declare our
responsibility for the explosion on the mentioned building. This
action was done in response for the American political,
economical, and military support to Israel the state of terrorism
and to the rest of the dictator countries in the region.


1 - Stop all military, economical, and
political aid to Israel.

2 - All diplomatic relations with Israel
must stop.

3 - Not to interfere with any of the
Middle East countries interior affairs.

Yet after that NYT's Thomas Friedman denied that there were specific demands. Terrorists, he wrote in 1998, "have no specific ideological program or demands. Rather, they are driven by a generalized hatred of the US, Israel and other supposed enemies of Islam." (source: Foreign Affairs; Angry, Wired and Deadly by THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN Published: August 22, 1998 )

Friedman denied specifically that  Ramzi Yousef and Osama bin Laden had specific demands. "The super-empowered angry men have no specific ideological program or demands ... Ramzi Yousef, mastermind of the World Trade Center bombing, was a super-empowered angry man. Osama bin Laden is another."

In addition to the clear demands Ramzi Yousef sent in a letter the New York Times, Osama was giving interviews including this one which was available before Friedman wrote lies in the NYT:

This is from the 1997 interview:

REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, you've declared a jihad against the United States. Can you tell us why? And is the jihad directed against the US government or the United States' troops in Arabia? What about US civilians in Arabia or the people of the United States?

BIN LADIN: We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation of the Prophet's Night Travel Land (Palestine). And we believe the US is directly responsible for those who were killed in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq. The mention of the US reminds us before everything else of those innocent children who were dismembered, their heads and arms cut off in the recent explosion that took place in Qana (in Lebanon). This US government abandoned even humanitarian feelings by these hideous crimes. It transgressed all bounds and behaved in a way not witnessed before by any power or any imperialist power in the world. 

And Thomas Friedman has continued to lie in order to suppress anger at Israel as the motive: 

Thomas Friedman lies about bin Laden's motives. Friedman claims, "the fact is that bin Laden never focused on this issue. He only started talking about "Palestine" after September 11, when he sensed that he might be losing the support of the Arab street. " (p311 of Longitudes & Attitudes ) and " Osama bin Laden never mentioned the Palestinian cause as motivating his actions until he felt he was losing support in the Arab world. " (p361-362 of Longitudes & Attitudes ) What Friedman has written is a flat out lie. To give just one example that disproves what Friedman wrote: "Your position against Muslims in Palestine is despicable and disgraceful. America has no shame. " - Osama bin Laden May 1998 I also have to wonder how in this invented scenario Friedman "knows" what bin Laden "sensed" about the Arab street.

So contrary to the arguments of some, there are indeed people with an agenda, not only the above example of Thomas Friedman: 
"Uzi Safanov, a writer at the Seawanhaka newspaper of Long Island University in New York, agreed. I'm a Jew before being a journalist, before someone pays me to write," he said. "If I find a negative thing about Israel, I will not print it and I will sink into why did it happen and what can I do to change it." Safanov said that even if he eventually wrote about negative incidents that happen in Israel, he would try to find the way "to shift the blame."" - Jewish journalists grapple with ‘doing the write thing’

There are many many references to the main motive, this example actually made it into the 911 report: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, shared the same motivation. "By his own account, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's animus toward the United States stemmed not from his experiences there as a student, but rather from his violent disagreement with U.S. foreign policy favoring Israel." Chapter 5 

Marwan al-Shehhi, the pilot who flew into WTC 2, was focused on the same thing, “when someone asked why he and Atta never laughed, Shehhi retorted, “How can you laugh when people are dying in Palestine?”" - page 162 The 9/11 Commission Report

Many references to Israel were omitted from staff statements before they made their way into the 9/11 Report: See how many mentions of Israel got omitted between the staff statements to the final 9/11 Report: (that jumps about 2 minutes into the video called "Gage's Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Fraud. WTC7 "small fires" lie EXPOSED!")

My own research has turned up even more evidence which the Commission had access to as well:

Abdulaziz Alomari, one of the hijackers aboard Flight 11 with Mohammed Atta, said in his video will, "My work is a message those who heard me and to all those who saw me at the same time it is a message to the infidels that you should leave the Arabian peninsula defeated and stop giving a hand of help to the coward Jews in Palestine."

Ahmed Al Haznawi, a hijacker aboard Flight 93, said in his video will, "Here is Palestine for more than a half-century, its wound has continued to bleed."

In March of 2002, MSNBC aired "The Making of the Death Pilots." In that documentary, German friend Ralph Bodenstein who traveled, worked and talked a lot with Mohammed Atta. Ralph said, "He (Atta) was most imbued actually about Israeli politics in the region and about US protection of these Israeli politics in the region. And he was to a degree personally suffering from that."

"We swore that America wouldn't live in security until we live it truly in Palestine. This showed the reality of America, which puts Israel's interest above its own people's interest. America won't get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula, and until it stops its support of Israel." -Osama bin Laden, October 2001

"... the Mujahideen saw the black gang of thugs in the White House hiding the Truth, and their stupid and foolish leader, who is elected and supported by his people, denying reality and proclaiming that we (the Mujahideen) were striking them because we were jealous of them (the Americans), whereas the reality is that we are striking them because of their evil and injustice in the whole of the Islamic World, especially in Iraq and Palestine and their occupation of the Land of the Two Holy Sanctuaries." -Osama Bin Laden , February 14 , 2003

"Someone approached me in the mosque as I was praying, and started to talk to me about injustice in the Middle East, the poverty, our impotence in the face of Israel. He made me want to listen to him - to find a solution. At first these people don't talk about violence. They concentrate on how much injustice America has caused in the world and how to get rid of this unfairness. They mention Palestine, they call on you to uphold your national dignity, to defend people, and suggest for that you must sacrifice yourself. Then your people will live after you and will always remember you." The young man, himself an Egyptian, speaking in the privacy of a quite courtyard in Cairo, believed this was the way Mohamed Atta was approached. "Al-Qaeda" by Jane Corbin p125