Thursday, March 27, 2008

Gravel and Israel

It is a shame that Gravel says he will "join the Libertarian Party, because the Democratic Party no longer represents my vision for our great country."

One of the reasons it's a shame is because, of the major DEMOCRATIC candidates running, Gravel had the best position with regard to Israel. (I'll have to look to see if a lesser known Democrat is a good choice for the PRIMARY (not the general election). Anyway, I was asked this question about Gravel: "Do you know Mr. Gravel's position on Israel or Israel's policies or the degree of support the US should or should not give?"

Mike Gravel has said, "if Israel were to move, and I'm President of the United States, and they talk about invading another country again, I'll put a stop to it. Period." - Mike Gravel Speaks The Truth!

Ron Paul has never said anything like that. The way Ron Paul talks, he act like we are holding Israel back.

I haven't seen others so clear about AIPAC's influence as Mike Gravel:

MIKE GRAVEL: Look what we're trying to do with Iran right now. Last week, the Lieberman resolution -- he's the guy that wrote the resolution with Iraq and killed over 3,000 Americans and a million Iraqis. And now he comes forward with another resolution, and the leadership of the Democratic Party in the Senate doesn't even have the brains or the judgment to recognize what he's doing.
Sanctions on the Republican Guard? They already have sanctions. The U.N. passed them in March, Resolution 1747. What is the game they're playing right now to have sanctions? I mean, this was AIPAC that put Lieberman up to do this. This is disaster. We invade Iran, and they'll use it as an excuse, just the way we did it in Cambodia and Laos, "Oh, we've got to solve that problem right over the border because they're damaging our soldiers."
If we touch Iran and they respond, you're talking about, in the minimum, a world depression, because the oil industry will just get shut down at the Straits of Hormuz. That's the minimum.

RAY SUAREZ: You're saying that the national legislature of this country, rather than doing the will of the citizens of the United States, passed that Iran resolution, sanctioning the Republican Guard, because of the American- Israeli Political Action Committee?

MIKE GRAVEL: Wait a second. They'll be some information coming out about how this thing was drafted. So the answer is yes, the short answer.
Let me tell you how serious this is, Ray, because if we touch Iran and they respond, you're talking about, in the minimum, a world depression, because the oil industry will just get shut down at the Straits of Hormuz. That's the minimum.

and Gravel doesn't have to say this (I have NEVER heard Ron Paul admit the following):

Gravel went beyond what anyone else would. I was really impressed, (it is so good I planned to make a video of it) Check it out:

MODERATOR: We’ll have a response from Senator Clinton and then Mike Gravel.
CLINTON: Well, I understand politics, and I understand making outlandish political charges, but this really goes way too far.
In fact, having designated the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization, we’ve actually seen some changes in their behavior.
There is absolutely no basis for a rush to war, which I oppose and have opposed for two years.
But there is also a recognition that the Iranians were supplying weapons that killed Americans, they were supplying technical assistance from the Quds Force, which is their special operations element.
So I think we’ve actually seen the positive effects of having labeled them a terrorist organization because it did change their behavior.
MODERATOR: Mike Gravel, then Joe Biden.
GRAVEL: There is no evidence. There is no evidence.
GRAVEL: And they’ve produced none. Our military has no evidence and they’ve not produced any.
But let’s -- I want to touch something that they’re all giving license to; that there’s something wrong with Iran supporting Hamas and Hezbollah.
These are two elected organizations. And why can’t they give support to those organizations?
Israel doesn’t want it. So why do they buy, hook, line and sinker, that they can’t give aid to Hamas and Hezbollah?
We give unlimited aid to Israel. These people are fighting for their rights.
MODERATOR: You -- you believe...
GRAVEL: Is there something wrong with that?
MODERATOR: We’ll come back to your points in a moment. Senator Biden, you ...

And points out: Gravel Opposes the United States' current relationship with Israel. "Gravel says the U.S., its allies, and regional actors should "sponsor direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, including Hamas" to forge a two-state solution."

As many of you know, I was supporting Gravel in the DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. IF you are wondering, for now, for the general election in Nov., I support Nader.


Anonymous said...

ron paul doesnt ACTUALLY BELIEVE the US is holding israel back, he just has to SAY THAT, in order to be more acceptable in the mainstream media

if ron paul were to somehow become president, you would see israel's money cut off, military support gone, and the strongest political influence to demonize israeli incursions into palestine etc.

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Let's not get too stupid about this, kids. Why should we let some 14th century kings living in sand castles tell us what we should do or who we can support?

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