--- In 911TruthAction@yahoogroups.com, John Perna
"DO YOU WISH THAT YOU COULD TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH?
My Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of Iraq regime has been completed. Since congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete. This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to begin the reckoning."
WHOA, WHOA John. This is supposed to be what we would wish for? I wish for justice. I wish Bush and others get charged with war crimes for starting a war of aggression against Iraq.
In your wish list scenario you let Bush and the other criminals off the hook!! What Bush did was a war crime, in fact a crime the same as the Nazis were hung for. The crime of aggression.
"The major and crucial point overlooked is the judgment of Nuremberg, declaring that aggression is "the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole." All of the "accumulated evil." Also overlooked are the stern words of the US Chief Counsel Justice Jackson: "If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us... We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well." Until at least this is recognized, all other discussion is merely footnotes, and shameful ones." - Q/A on the Iraq War
"By the principles of the Nuremberg Tribunal, which the US initiated and carried out, it concluded that the supreme international crime is invasion, aggression, and that supreme crime includes within it all the evil that follows. So therefore the doubling of malnutrition rates, the maybe 100,000 casualties, the grave war crimes in Fallujah, they're all footnotes, they're footnotes to the supreme international crime.
And that crime is taken pretty seriously. [when others do it of course] In Nuremberg they did not try soldiers, and they didn't try company commanders, they tried the the people who were on trial and hanged - were the top command. Like the German Foreign Minister was hanged. Because of participation in the supreme international crime which encompasses all the evil that follows. Do we hear anything about that?" - Civilization versus Barbarism?
The war was illegal and that is according to our own Constitution because the war violated the "law of the land." The U.S. signed the UN Charter which means that the treaty is law of our land. For those that actually care about this country: the very foundation of which is the U.S. Constitution. It is the core of what our country is supposed to be about and it is so important that it is what our solders swear to “support and defend. ” The oath we have them take is "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States "
And Congress doesn't care about saving the taxpayers money, they want to spend the money because the rich and powerful interests they represent want public money spent because it goes to U.S. corporations. The special interests that pull the strings don't think of it as spending money, because for them it is literally receiving money. That is an important point. Look at these wars and you see it they are actaully a shake down of the American taxpayer. But these politicians don't care since it is not their money being s spent and the interests they represent are on the receiving end of the deal. These special intersts should not profit. Investigantions should be carried out into who pushed for the war and how they lied to the American people.
"The United States should not only get out quickly, it ought to be compelled or shamed into paying huge sums to a free Iraq to compensate for the enormous damage that resulted from its commission of the "supreme crime" and murderous occupation." - Q/A on the Iraq War