"If we for a moment accept that the video is authentic and has not somehow been crafted by the CIA or related agencies, then this is an instance of the alleged al Qaeda leadership taking credit for 911 even to the point of attacking the Iranian leadership for asserting the inside-job thesis. Doesn’t that conflict somewhat with the view of an inside-job being falsely attributed to al Qaeda?" - patricksmcnally
Yes, and basically everything conflicts with it being an "inside job." Bin Laden and others have been making statements for years saying why they attack the US. If US operatives were creating these tapes, then why don't the terrorists say they are attacking because they "hate freedom?" INSTEAD, we see things like this: In an Oct. 2004 speech, Osama bin Laden said that Bush is still misleading the American people by not telling us the real reason why al-Qeada attacks us. Bin Laden said that, "contrary to what [President George W.] Bush says and claims -- that we hate freedom --let him tell us then, "Why did we not attack Sweden?" It is known that those who hate freedom don't have souls with integrity, like the souls of those 19." [The 19 hijackers of 9/11]
Bin Laden is angered by U.S. support for Israel and was angered when America gave permission for Israel to invade Lebanon. He is angered by the injustice and was determined to punish the transgressors. He decided "we have to punish the transgressor with the same -- and that we had to destroy the towers in America so that they taste what we tasted, and they stop killing our women and children."
Bin Laden has been consistent, this is from the 1997 interview:
REPORTER: Mr. Bin Ladin, you've declared a jihad against the United States. Can you tell us why? And is the jihad directed against the US government or the United States' troops in Arabia? What about US civilians in Arabia or the people of the United States?
BIN LADIN: We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation of the Prophet's Night Travel Land (Palestine).And we believe the US is directly responsible for those who were killed in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq. The mention of the US reminds us before everything else of those innocent children who were dismembered, their heads and arms cut off in the recent explosion that took place in Qana (killings in Lebanon perpetrated by Israel)
"... the Mujahideen saw the black gang of thugs in the White House hiding the truth, and their stupid and foolish leader, who is elected and supported by his people, denying reality and proclaiming that we (the Mujahideen) were striking them because we were jealous of them (the Americans), whereas the reality is that we are striking them because of their evil and injustice in the whole of the Islamic World, especially in Iraq and Palestine and their occupation of the Land of the Two Holy Sanctuaries." -Osama Bin Laden , February 14 , 2003
There are just so many statements talking about motive, does it make any sense for "the CIA or related agencies" to "craft" tapes which talk about a motive which Bush and other politicians work so hard to suppress? In fact, 9/11 Commissioners Bowed to Pressure to Suppress Main Motive for the 9/11 Attacks. If the tapes were fake, the terrorists would probably be saying "we hate your freedoms" but they don't, instead we hear grievances which turn out to be real injustices for which US politicians and policy makers are at fault.
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To Tom (representativepress): In support of your claim that al-Qaeda's wrath at the U.S.A. is all about Israel, you quote bin Laden as saying, "we are striking them because of their evil and injustice in the whole of the Islamic World, especially in Iraq and Palestine and their occupation of the Land of the Two Holy Sanctuaries." Note here that Israel (Palestine) is sandwiched in between Iraq and "the Land of the Two Holy Sanctuaries" (Saudi Arabia), where the U.S. had a bunch of military bases left over from the first Gulf War. So it isn't just about Israel, but about the U.S.A.'s Middle East policy in general, including but not limited to Israel.
I have never said that Diane (see post)
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