"Omitted are the inconvenient facts that the US-Israel are not only dedicated to the destruction of any viable Palestinian state, but are steadily implementing those policies. Or that unlike the two rejectionist states, Hamas has called for a two-state settlement in terms of the international consensus: publicly, repeatedly, explicitly." - Obama on Israel-Palestine, Noam Chomsky, chomsky.info, January 24, 2009
Friday, January 30, 2009
Hamas is in agreement with basically the rest of world
The United States and Israel have been rejecting the two-state settlement solution, a solution to the peace process which has been agreed to by basically the whole world. Unlike the United States and Israel, Hamas is in agreement with basically the rest of world in calling for this two-state settlement solution and Hamas has done so publicly, repeatedly, and explicitly. This fact is omitted by Obama and other politicians, a fact Chomsky points out:
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Then why Fatah and the Hamas has been killing each other?
You are not telling the truth. I went and looked at your citation to the Chomsky article and he does not provide a source for his claim that Hamas accepts a two-state solution. I then went to wiki and found a sentence that says Hamas has recently accepted a two state solution but then when I went to the footnotes and actually read the articles they all say that Hamas will only accept a Hunda (temporary truce) and not an end to the conflict based on two states. Please provide me with a source for your assertion. Thanks.
Hamas' own charter calls for the destruction of Israel.
Perhaps they should update their charter?
-IDB
Your with Israel or your with the terrorists period. Nothing better to prove this than showing Palestinians celebrating and dancing in the attacks of 911.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3u3rMIs5hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3u3rMIs5hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmo64fcvKs0
Well if there is one thing that seems to amaze me is how the Muslim world was quick to point the finger at Israel, when Iran who helped aid the terrorist organizations of Hamas and Hezbollah remained blameless. I feel that it is the president of Iran who should be charged with war crimes for aiding Hamas and Hezbollah the ones who created this whole mess in the first place. I see that people in the Muslim world are also hypocrites when in fact they are supporting and justifying terrorism of Hamas. I have also noticed that people in Palestine do not mention that Hamas kills their own people in Gaza. This is something Saddam Hussein did as well, as i saw some supporters in the pro-palestinian support groups even putting pictures as Saddam Hussein as a martyr. I think people need to look at this more realistically and i feel that just because Hamas, the president of Iran are Muslims does not make them innocent angels. I also know how Hamas operates and i know they had secretly recruited people to die alongside them to help destroy the image of Israel, other than using those who refused to participate with the criminal organization as human Shields. The IDF has also tried to reduce civilian casualties by warning the citizens to leave the area that will be attacked by throwing white pamphlets into the battle field. If the people who are collaborating alongside Hamas whether it be women and children there is nothing Israel can do if they are participating to die in suicide missions to help destroy Israels image in the media. They recruit people in Gaza the same way they would convince a Palestinian suicide bomber to join in to kill themselves to get into heaven. The president of Iran is quite mistaken if he thinks he can get away with these major crimes and manipulating the media in his favor. I also feel that the Arab league and the UN made things worse by also pointing the finger at Israel which only increased the violence and Hamas popularity and justifying the terrorism of Hamas and as well make government officials in Israel angry. I do press for international condemnation against the president of Iran for war crimes in aiding terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah. This war will not end until Hamas and Hezbollah are long and dead forever and no real peace will be achieve until they are gone for good. The president of Iran must also be stopped. I said it before and i will say it again, if you are not with Israel you support terrorism. Palestinians don't support terrorism you say? They voted for Hamas who passed the Hamas charter and where on the streets celebrating during the attacks of 911.
Very typical that the Muslims commit all the crimes and then use the Jews as scapegoats to cover their crimes.
Palestinians are your problem not Israel, don't believe me? Check it out and see the Palestians celebrating the attacks of 911!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3u3rMIs5hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3u3rMIs5hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmo64fcvKs0
I find it very typical that those scum bags of Al-Qaida would use Israel as their scapegoat when they were in fact helping Palestine in promoting their destruction of Israel. This whole site will be used by Hamas charter propaganda to support terrorism. Your with Israel or your with the terrorists. Why do you think Osama Bin Laden likes Palestine so much?
Your with Israel or your with the terrorists period. Nothing better to prove this than showing Palestinians celebrating and dancing in the attacks of 911.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3u3rMIs5hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3u3rMIs5hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmo64fcvKs0
"Your with Israel or your with the terrorists period. Nothing better to prove this than showing Palestinians celebrating and dancing in the attacks of 911." So says the commentator above.
You didn't see the Israelis celebrating right here during 9/11? Oh that's right, the media didn't want to show you them.
i would add that hamas,like it or not is a representative of the palestinian people,it was elected by the majority of palestinians in 2006, even jimmy carter admitted that
so sooner or later the two parties will have to sit and talk to each other
Um, Hamas HAS accepted the two-state solution AND Israel's right to exist (on the pre-June 1967 border, of course).
Don't believe me, believe these sources instead:
www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1035414.html
www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=11&ar=2426 (Video of this debate is on Youtube.)
The thing is, this conflict can be solved easily, and no one has to give up their current country. The only thing blocking a peaceful settlement is the refusal of Israel and the USA to go along with the rest of the world.
Tom, have you noticed that Egypt condemned Hamas this past war, and even Europe withheld their empathy for the Hamas. Besides tom, have you read the Hamas charter? that has an exclusive part against Jews? how can Jewish people make peace with such organization while the Hamas keeps killing the Fatah. What does Chomsky has to say about the Hamas charter?
Julia,
Why did Hamas object to the Oslo Accords?
If Hamas is serious about peace, perhaps they should stop trying to provoke Israel?
-IDB87
Israeli's were on the streets of New York celibrating 9/11 and filming the whole attack at the time. Hamas was democratically elected and they should not accept a so called state who will not define its own borders and that seem to grow daily. The world courts decision should be the final say. Israel should stop stealing more land. Wake up to the lies of Israel and (terrorism, ha) Capitalist Imperialism for oil and gas hegemony. 11 of the 9/11 attackers were from Saudi Arabia. If you were being persecuted and saw your perpetrators doing what you could not, given the genocidal actions that have been imposed on your people you might be a bit bias to see such and attack. Hamas is more defined in its stance than Israel. Hamas accepts the world court decision. Abbas was not elected.
Hamas and the palistinians in Gaza are in a concentration camp for all practical purposes. The little pop bottle rockets they fired are hardly capable of doing much damage, and little was done. If they were getting supplies and support from Iran, I would think Iran would be able to supply them with something with more damage capabilities than sugar water rockets. Any truce rejections must be taken in the time elements with in which they are applicable. World court should have the final say, and it was for Israel to move back its illegal settlements.
To avenger, Egypt dictator leader receives quite a chunk of foriegn aid from the US, you do not bite the hand that feeds you. Most EU countries follow US policy especially on terrorist organizations. Most capitalist countries follow the US hand in foot on the phoney war on terror so they can benifit from the spoils of oil markets control. Gaza ocean front is loaded with natural gas reserves that Israel dose not want the palistinians to benifit from. Israel refuses to let BP develop and pay the palistinians for development of their off shore gold mine. Easier to use depleted uraniaum and phosphoruos bombs to slowly genocidally remove the population as NATO and the US did in Bosnia and Iraq.
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