Thursday, August 05, 2004

If the Palestinians Negotiated instead of Starting and Losing a War...
Then there would have been peace decades ago. The Zionists were willing to compromise by accepting the UN Partition plan in 1947.

what a load of shit. From day one the Zionists wanted to impose a "Jewish State" where non-Jews would be forced from the land or be made second class citizens in their own land. We have the words of the top Zionists (read below), stop trying to bullshit us here. The facts prove that the Zionists had no intention on ANYTHING reasonable and were not going to "negotiate". "Negotiate"? The Zionists pulled string to get an OFF THE WALL UNFAIR PLAN suggested by the UN. The plan was a suggestion, it wasn't something legally binding (against the wishes of over 67% of the population by the way, every hear of something called democracy?) "Negotiate"? once the UN plan was anounced the Zionists started theri ethnic cleansing operations, this is MONTHS before MAY 1948.

The Zionists pushed an extremist policy upon the people of Palestine. It is bullshit to claim that Zionists would have been satisfied with the UN plan. remember the UN plan did not call for ethnic cleansing hundreds of thousands of people, yet they started doing it well before "Israel" was declared. The plan was what many Jews were pushing: for dividing up Palestine on the basis of religion as a tactical step. The UN proposal was unfair, yet still not as extreme as the criminally unjust plans of the Zionists. It is really not accurate to say that the Jews “accepted” the UN plan when they did not abide by it even before May 1948.

AND no person in the world thinks it is fair for less than 33% of a population to grab MOST of the land! Yet this is the BS proposal that Zionists insist the Arabs "should have" accepted. No people on Earth would accept such an outrageous injustice (that is why the basic facts are suppressed) If Americans knew the facts they would be shocked

What the UN plan proposed was dividing Palestine into states the way states are divisions within a country. The UN partitions called for “A constitution of an Economic Union between the two states: custom union, joint monetary system, joint administration of main services, equal access to water and energy resources. “ That is not what the Jews accepted so saying the Jews accepted the UN partition is not accurate. And to claim that the Jews actually intended on sticking to the UN partition plan is to ignore the historical evidence and the words of the top Zionists.

The Zionist agenda is of ethnic cleansing and racism and that goes back its beginnings. The father of Zionism, Theodor Herzl, plotted the removal of the Palestinians as early as 1895.

In 1919, President Wilson's King-Crane Commission reported that ' the Zionists looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the present non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine ' and estimated that the latter - ' nearly nine-tenths of the whole ' - are ' emphatically against the entire Zionist programme '.

ANd who the f*** would be for such a "Zionist programme" who the **** says "please violate my rights, make me a second class citizen in my own land. the whole idea is ****. How blind or racist does someone have to be not to see this?!?!?! Who the **** thinks it is strange that ANYONE would want to resist this being done to them?

This was an immoral plan that violated the rights of 9 out of 10 people in Palestine. The author of the Balfore declaration admitted in 1919 that “in Palestine we do not propose even to go through the forum of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country, though the American [King-Crane] Commission has been going through the form of asking what they are. The four great powers are committed to Zionism “ Clearly it was wrong, it was immoral.

You don’t have a grasp on the basic facts. Even Israel’s Ben-Gurion stated, "who- ever approaches the Zionist problem from a moral aspect is not a Zionist ".

It is dishonest to claim that the UN plan was something the Jews were really going to accept. It is clear that the Jews would not have been content with what the UN plan had suggested, they intended on getting even more. Of the debates Zionists had about partitioning Palestine, Ben-Gurion in a press interview said bluntly, “The debate has not been for or against the indivisibility of Eretz Israel. No Zionist can forgo the smallest portion of Eretz Israel. The debate was over which of the two routes would lead quicker to the common goal.”

One route was rejecting partition proposals, which the Zionists did in 1937. But they kept open the option of publicly declaring acceptance of a partition plan, which they did in 1947. What was to be publicly agreed to was privately discussed as only a tactic to get more.

In 1938 Ben-Gurion said to other Zionists, “after we become a strong force, as the result of the creation of a state, we shall abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine.” Sure enough, after the creation of the state in 1948, Menachem Begin made clear how serious the “Jews accepting the UN partition” was in reality, “The partition of the Homeland is illegal . It will never be recognized. The signature of institutions and individuals of the partition agreement is invalid. It will not bind the Jewish people. Jerusalem was and will forever be our capital. Eretz Israel (the land of Israel) will be restored to the people of Israel, All of it. And forever“.

The UN partition plan DID NOT call for ethnic cleansing but after the UN partition plan was announced, Zionists ethnically cleansed 300,000 Palestinians and had grabbed land well beyond the area of the proposed Jewish State, These deeds were committed BEFORE they declared "Israel" in MAY of 1948. In reality there wasn't an acceptance of the UN partition. In fact there wasn't adherence to the cease-fire (violation of cease-fires has been a standard Zionist practice) that was supposed to end the 1948 war. In keeping with Zionist plans and tactics, "Immediately after the armistice agreements of 1949 , Israel began encroachments into the demilitarized zones along with military attacks with many civilian casualties and the expulsion of thousands of Arabs

Are you an American? Why are you defending a grotesquely anti-democratic (less than 33% of a land imposing their will on over 67%) and an incredibly racist system? (the "Jewish State" is by definition and in practice a racist system that discriminates against people because of heir religion.) The very idea is a violation of BASIC American principles, why the **** are you making excuses for this madness?
 The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine

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