Saturday, January 07, 2006

Hurting and Killing Iranians and Iraqis

barry-3 writes, "
Don't be so dramatic and try to make the United States worse than it is."

Stop with the propaganda, we are not talking about the United States, we are talking about people within our government that have violated the principles that most Americans agree we should stand for. They are the "domestic enemies" that we are supposed to defend our Constitution against. These are not people we should bend over backwards making excuses for. Have you never heard of the oath which is sworn to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic?

And notice that mainstream media keeps the general public in the dark about the many of the actions of these people. It was not even reported how the Ba'ath party was put into power in the first place! The media is incredibly subservience to powerful interests.

Notice when we hear about the Iran hostage crisis we almost never hear why the hostages were taken in the first place? (the reason was they wanted to hold the Shah accountable for his crimes and they were worried the U.S. would once again reinstall the Shah like they did in 1953. The building they took over is the very same building the CIA used to launch the coup that reinstalled the Shah. We are a country that fought to free itself from a king and we have people in our government that undermine a democratic government asn force a king upon them! ) These are not minor crimes and the media overwhelmingly downplays or suppresses these things. Do you have any idea how many Iranians suffered under the Shah? Israel's Mossad and the America's CIA worked with the Shah's secret police, SAVAK, which was ruthless, it tortured and killed many Iranians.

Don't make it worse than it is? For God Sakes, would you have wanted to be one of the Iraqis on the lists that the CIA handed over to the Ba'ath part to be shot? The CIA actively supported the 1963 coup that brought the Ba'ath party to power and the CIA made lists of people it labeled as communists and gave these lists to "the submachine gun-toting Iraqi National Guardsmen". The people on these CIA lists were "jailed, interrogated, and summarily gunned down, according to former U.S. intelligence officials with intimate knowledge of the executions." ... the mass killings, presided over by Saddam, took place at Qasr al-Nehayat, literally, the Palace of the End.

A former senior U.S. State Department official told UPI: "We were frankly glad to be rid of them. You ask that they get a fair trial? You have to get kidding. This was serious business." US diplomat James Akins served in the Baghdad Embassy at the time. Mr. Akins said, "I knew all the Ba'ath Party leaders and I liked them ... Sure, some people were rounded up and shot but these were mostly communists so that didn't bother us".

What if they were Jews that were rounded up and shot? What if it was Jews whose names we handed over to be killed? You can't see that the actions of these U.S. officials is the same as the Nazis or Nazi collaborators? If someone was talking about people that handed over the names of Jews to be rounded up and shot by the Nazis would you say "don't make it worse than it is"? Have you given any of this serious thought?

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